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Re: “Science!

*please excuse my typing mistakes. I'm writing from my phone. Anyway, those questions are meant to be rhetorical. My point is only that, it would be ignorant not to ask questions and it is ignorant to criticize, and completely dismiss, that there is another side to this "debate". Oh, but "we are recognizing the other side, and those people are quacks, nothing they say or think is true, they cherry pick, there is no scientific evidence, they only listen to Jenny McCarthy, let use all these studies paid for by pharmaceutical companies to debunk them.. etc. " does not count as looking at the other side.

Alright, well I'm done here. I agree to disagree.
Take care.

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Posted by bbop on 02/13/2015 at 11:51 AM

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montrealman, what I agreed with was that no one on this feed is %100 able to determine the truth.
When I say there is science on both sides of the issue, but then say I'm biased, I mean - my bias, my experiences with vaccines, has inspired me to research vaccines, to look at the science on the "other side".
Is it not ignorant to say, or to believe, vaccines are %100 percent effect, %100 safe. Should our right to choose should be taken away? Should they be mandatory? Who knows then what vaccines will be pushed on us in 5 or 10 years. Are they all necessary? What are the side effects? Is it safe to give children, starting in utero with the Tdap vaccine, 14 vaccines in 29 doses before they are 6 years old? Include 6 more if they are getting the flu shot every year. Does that do harm to a developing immune system? Are babies born with weak immune systems, and therefore need to be "saved" from our harsh environment that is apparently polluted with infectious disease? Can our immune systems not be built up naturally over time by being exposed to natural pathogens?
Is there no room for questioning anything? Should we believe everything the media is telling us?

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Posted by bbop on 02/13/2015 at 11:07 AM

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I agree with montrealman. I read the responses to my comment last night, but had absolutely no interest in replying to them because my goal was never to persuade anyone to change there mind - not because I didn't want to state my credentials (which was laughable). There is science and research on both sides of the issue. Majority of people are just doing research based on their own biases. My bias is mine, and my family's, experience with vaccines.

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Posted by bbop on 02/13/2015 at 9:26 AM

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Post 'Em: "The number of serious Gardisil reactions is minuscule in comparison to the huge number of potentially prevented cancer deaths every year"

The number of Gardisil reactions is very serious! Is it serious when one person dies from the flu? Yes. Then, it is very serious when someone reacts or dies from the Gardisil vaccine!
Also, how do you account for POTENTIALLY prevented cancer deaths?? Could we also say that eating an apple a day has potentially prevented millions of deaths every year? Or, wearing a hat outside has potentially prevented millions from catching a cold. You can say "potentially" in front of anything and make a claim! You don't know if Garisil prevented ANYONE from cancer. There is absolutely no way to prove that.

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Posted by bbop on 02/12/2015 at 12:22 PM

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Check the VAERS database - over 100 children have died in the past 10 years from the MMR vaccine. Check the CDC, there have been no deaths from measles in the past 10 years. Measles hasn't been a deadly disease since the 1800s and early 1900s (like all infectious diseases at the time). By the times the vaccine was introduced in 1963, measles was considered a generally mild disease because of labor laws, sanitation, nutrition, electricity, pasteurization, chlorination, etc. But, a billion dollar profit can be made from the vaccine. I'd rather have measles, stay home and rest for a couple days and be immune for life - just as most of the population born before 1970.
There is plenty of peer reviewed research studying the side effects ad (in)effectiveness of vaccines. You need to search past all the pro-vac propaganda though. The science behind vaccines is far from settled. Anybody can spread measles - vaccinated or not. People who were recently vaccinated are especially contagious since they are injected with a live attenuated virus, it is fact that these types of vaccines shed (influenza, MMR, varicella, etc.).
And finally, Jenny MacCarthy has nothing to do with why I chose not to vaccinate, or why I wasn't vaccinated 28 years ago. Don't criticize and name call those who have done their research, just because you haven't done yours. We have the freedom to choose, it is in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In order to make an informed decision, you need to know both sides of the issue. And reading CBC (which is only sharing one side of the issue) Huffington Post, Up Worthy and personal blogs, don't count.

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Posted by bbop on 02/12/2015 at 11:31 AM

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